Would you like to read them? It was a mob mentality. They set their rifle sights on me. Narrow visions of autonomy. You want me to surrender my identity? I was a teenage anarchist. It, it was kind of comical. One of the things I've really always liked most about punk rock and punk bands that, that are self critical and will like be critical of the punk scene in particular.
Um, I don't know if you ever got into Chumbawamba. They had a song called Give the Anarchist a Cigarette. They're anarchists, but they're being very critical of the anarchist punk scene. And I always loved it when punk bands did that, One Second To Get Fucked Up - Various - The Second Album: The First Of Its Kind (Lathe Cut, or even with, like, Crass being really critical of The Clash, or like The Clash being really critical of The Sex Pistols, you know?
I just, I liked that about punk bands when they do- would do that with other punk bands. So like, this song had an element of that and with that present in the air, okay, well by saying this, like any of like the punk fans that we had first starting out are going to see this Album) such a fuck you, that there's just no turning back, and, and going back to our roots in a way after the song.
Laura: Well, the song was written in some point in Laura: I was in Florida. We wrote most of the record in Florida and then wrote a couple songs out here in LA when we came out for pre-production. The other reason I chose this song specifically is because it's, it's, it's a shining example of why sometimes too many cooks in the kitchen is actually a good thing and it's- of any song that I have, it's the most collaborative I've been. And like if you let too many people come in and have their opinion and, like, give their voices on how it should change, it's going to ruin it.
You're going to lose it and the song's going to be gone. Laura: No. Well to some extent I'm really open minded when it comes One Second To Get Fucked Up - Various - The Second Album: The First Of Its Kind (Lathe Cut to it. I do take outside criticism, I have a thick skin. Like someone can be like, that sucks and I'll work to change it. Laura: Right, right.
Well, and that's like the- I think that with punk rock and with, with myself in particular, a lot of times that's just defensive. If I would've just like stood up for myself. Shirley: You really knew who you were as an artist at this point. Is that fair to say? Because it was your second major label album.
Shirley: Well, hold on one second! Right hold on, well that's good to know. But you had done what, two or three independent records? Three albums? Laura: Before we signed to Warner, and then New Wave was our major label debut and then White Crosses was the, the second record where we already knew we're fucked. You know, like our first record did not go gold.
It sold- like for us, it was a success. You know, we sold likerecords. Laura: Sure, and I knew in reality too, like the second record's fucked, no matter what we do, we're just fucked, you know like.
But if it doesn't hit, like within the first week, you're just screwed. And you know, like in reality, it's not going to hit in the first week because like, that's just like one in a million shot, you know?
Shirley: And did- so do you think that may have impacted your, your approach to the production of this record? Laura: No, w- at the time, um, we were being sued by a former manager and I was like, desperate. I know we're fucked. I know it's not going to be a hit. We've like- you know, I know the realities of the situation we are in but I am swinging for the fences. I'm going to try everything, I'm going to listen to everyone's input and I'm going to just approach it as diplomatically as possible and try.
Shirley: When you said that you felt like you were having an identity crisis, was this as a result of this, like, case that you were having against your former manager or? Laura: A little bit of that? A little bit of just like the age we were at, you know like I was 29 years old, about to turn 30, so there's the cliche of like, Oh my God, my twenties are ending.
I'm turning I'm about to have a kid literally about to having- have a kid, like my daughter Evelyn was born a week after we finished this record. Laura: So it was like working down to the wire, but coming out of the punk scene, like we've alienated ourselves from this punk scene that we grew up in. You can't turn back, moving away from Gainesville, Florida, moving to LA. Like I, you know, I arrived here in LA and I just like, I didn't know who I was and that, that was the hardest thing I had living in LA was like, I'm a huge believer in this, the psychic subconscious, you know, and for me writing, I'm very much um, location oriented.
I have to know who I am in a place and be able to know how I reflect off other people or off my environment. And LA has so much to it and there's so many other creatives going on that I just couldn't grab anything. I didn't know who I was here.
And like in a psychic subconscious way, like I couldn't find the frequencies of where to tune into to, just like, to run with it.
So LA was crushing me, I was like so scared of everything that was happening in my personal life. Like the band life was obviously so much stress with, like, all these, with a lawsuit, with the major label reality, with just like inner band tensions. Album) got arrested for an incident in Tallahassee where I got into an altercation in the cafe because someone was calling me a sellout and I overreacted. Um, I had court charges hanging over me for like most of the period of time that we were touring on New Wave.
Um, we fell apart as a band while touring on New Wave, had a new drummer. Who are we now? We were going from intowhich doesn't seem like that big of a deal, but it does like I tune into stuff like that. I'm a strong believer in the idea that you know, you have a good song if it can be stripped down to just you and acoustic guitar.
You can add anything else to it after the fact, a full fucking orchestra, doesn't matter, but as long as it works on an acoustic guitar, you have a solid structure. Shirley: Yeah. What influences are on, I Was a Teenage Anarchist? That you, if any. I mean, are there, are there artists that you reference or is it just purely you? You know, although it was, I should say it was number one at commercial radio in Canada.
So, thank you, Canada. Shirley: Now with the advantage of hindsight, we know where this story goes, but back then when you were making this record, and I think, uh, it would be remiss not to acknowledge the fact that you were also going through a lot of questions about your gender. Laura: Sure. Yeah, and, and this- living in LA at that period of time, like was- I was so low, you know, like just lowest of low in my dysphoria, in not knowing what to do, especially with a kid coming and just.
The same way removing stress and strain from our physical bodies causes them to become fragile and weak, removing mental stress and strain from our minds makes them fragile and weak. We need to consciously limit our own comforts. We need to force our minds to strain themselves, to work hard for their information, to deprive our attention of the constant stimulation that it craves. The same way the consumer economy of the 20th century called upon us to invent the nutritional diet, I believe that the attention economy of the 21st century calls upon us to invent an attention diet.
There are a few fronts on which our attention is being assaulted. And the more crap there is to pay attention to, the more difficult it is to choose what to focus on—not to mention stay focused on it!
Just as the first step of a nutritional diet is to consume less food, the first step of an attention diet is to consume less information. The same way the proliferation of junk food fucked up our bodies in the 20th century, the exponential growth in junk information has fucked up the emotions and minds in the 21st century. Therefore, the second goal of the Attention Diet is to find highly nutritious sources of information and relationships and then build our lives around them. Basically, the name of the game is quality over quantity.
The method of the Attention Diet is similar to a nutritional diet—by cutting out whole categories of consumption for a period of time, your body or mind adjusts, becomes healthier, and then, ideally, after enough time you no longer crave your old guilty pleasures.
My limited personal experiences have shown that Attention Diets are pretty effective. We all need something to help us unwind in our free time.
I personally love video games. Put another way, my hobby starts to hurt me rather than help me. Our goal is to make our hobbies work for us rather than against us. The Attention Diet should be emotionally difficult to implement. Ultimately, junk information hooks us because it is pleasing and easy. We develop low-level addictions to it and end up using it to numb a lot of our day-to-day stresses and insecurities.
Therefore, getting rid of the junk information will expose a lot of uncomfortable emotionstrigger cravings, and compulsions, and generally suck for the first few days or weeks. The goal here is to push yourself to stay more focused on what adds value to your life. In my opinion, they are like the tech geek versions of Farrah Fawcett and Arnold Schwarzeneggar in the 80s. Okay, maybe that was a Album) comparison, but the point is, they are leading the 21st century charge on treating our mental nutrition seriously.
The dude just gets shit done. You should definitely pre-order it if this is an area you struggle with. Try this: only get your news from the current events page of Wikipedia. Every Wikipedia language has a Main Page where they list current events and notable historical events. This will give you the bare minimum facts if you feel you must stay informed daily which is debatable.
And, if for some reason you want to dive deeper into whatever is happening, you can click on the article to, again, get the bare minimum facts. Wikipedia is curated to remove bias, political leanings, and false statements. Getting my news from Wikipedia is two things: 1 a breath of fresh air, and 2 completely boring. In fact, if anything is true of US news media sinceeverything is always viewed through the lens of Trump, which is not only annoying and unhelpful, but unfairly characterizes a lot of these issues.
But pop onto Wikipedia and within three sentences, I learned more about the situation than all of the news articles I had read, combined. Wikipedia is also boring. Which is good, partly because facts have a tendency to be boring, but also because boredom has no bias.
If an article gets you angry or excited, you will become biased about its content. But best of all, making the news boring again encourages you to only read about what is truly important or impactful for you. But, there are important long-term issues like climate change and civil rights and economic inequality that require lots of information and critical thinking. What about those? Well, glad you asked….
Long form content should be your bread and butter for news content and the majority of your entertainment content. Long-form content means any medium—Books, Podcasts, long-form articles, documentaries—the key is that shit takes a long time. There are two benefits of limiting yourself to long-form content. Stupidity in a tweet can sound deep. Stupidity repeated for 12, words quickly makes itself apparent. The second benefit of long-form content is that it hones our attention span and gets us accustomed to sitting with topics for extended periods of time.
It helps us to not fall prey to our immediate knee-jerk responses. The long-form content applies to entertainment too. The idea is to regularly stretch your attention span and ability to focus and exercise it like a muscle. Email should be a consciously-chosen activity done at a specific time to maximize its purpose.
Same goes for social media. Same goes for entertainment. Below are the guidelines that I try to stick to and are working well in my life. OK, this is all fine and dandy, but how the hell do we keep to this?
I have that. Lauryn Hill is one of those for me. Her voice is like a Xanax for me. Yes, absolutely. I wanted to be a social worker; I very much believe in therapy. My live show has sort of become over the years like group therapy. Why put trauma in your album title? The song is one thing and the reason why I named the album after it is a whole other.
Jack [Antonoff] and I got together, and he is a loveable human being, and we were just sort of trading funny relationship stories. You know, long-term relationships are a lot of work. I went through that as a kid; Carey did many times. I like to fight for things I believe in. Life is fucking traumatic. Like, my dad just beat cancer. Chemo was traumatic. Having Album) dad dying of cancer is traumatic. Turning on the news is traumatic.
Mother Nature is fucking traumatic. But at the same time, there are so many rad, good people in the world. Were you writing the album while your dad fought cancer? I think back to the song he wrote about the Vietnam War that you performed together years ago.
What is your relationship with him like now? It has been all over the place in my life, both my parents. But my dad is a solid dude and he loves me. I love that song. I read he voted for Trump, which seems so out of step with the daughter he raised. I said the same thing. I appreciate that sentiment. He has a magic flashlight [ laughs ]. The music business has changed a lot over the course of your career.
Why bother? Early on, they gave up on me. They wanted me to take etiquette classes. Women are speaking up and supporting each other, too. Luke even five years ago, had it not been for Kesha? People give me shit.
I never backed down. I always say it, the difference is I just get in a little less shit. And I have a vagina. But I never back down. I just have to listen less to the comments. So in some ways, we do move forward together and this new feminist movement is freaking awesome. Having such long, stable careers has afforded both you and Kelly Clarkson the space to be able to denounce someone like Dr.
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